I followed up on a Freeper post I saw some time ago about GreenStone and the new Gloria Steinem and Jane Fonda talk radio and I came upon and interview with Gloria and bloggers.
Listening to this horribly recorded podcast was like a flashback to the days when I actually read women’s magazines including Ms.
The thread running through the interview was: WE ARE ALL VICTIMS AND HAVE BEEN PSYCHOLOGICALLY TORTURED! MEN NEED TO BE HUMANIZED!! WOMEN WHO DON’T BELIEVE WHAT WE BELIEVE HAVE BEEN DAMAGED BY THEIR RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR MOTHERS!! The same old rot and self-absorption.
If you listen to this you must be of the mind that everything that is wrong with this country is President Bush’s fault. We are under assault and the world is about to end because of W and Fox News.
A paraphrased gem:
‘If you actually listen to Bin Laden he has some interesting things to say. It’s U.S. foreign policy he hates, not democracy.’
Really? Does Bin Laden speak out against this?
Was President Clinton of a mind to listen to Osama?
CLINTON: No, no. I authorized the CIA to get groups together to try to kill him.The CIA, which was run by George Tenet, that President Bush gave the Medal of Freedom to, he said, “He did a good job setting up all these counter-terrorism things.”The country never had a comprehensive anti-terror operation until I came there. Now, if you want to criticize me for one thing, you can criticize me for this: After the Cole, I had battle plans drawn to go into Afghanistan, overthrow the Taliban, and launch a full-scale attack search for bin Laden.But we needed basing rights in Uzbekistan, which we got after 9/11.The CIA and the FBI refused to certify that bin Laden was responsible while I was there. They refused to certify. So that meant I would’ve had to send a few hundred Special Forces in helicopters and refuel at night.Even the 9/11 Commission didn’t do that. Now, the 9/11 Commission was a political document, too. All I’m asking is, anybody who wants to say I didn’t do enough, you read Richard Clarke’s book.
WALLACE: Do you think you did enough, sir?
CLINTON: No, because I didn’t get him.
WALLACE: Right.
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So, Gloria, where’s the criticism of President Clinton?
I could hammer a book out on stone with my bare fingers about this interview, listen for yourself, but the thing I would like to point out is that Steinem seems to point to talk radio and W as the cause of all that is wrong in the world. I would also point out that she never points a finger of criticism at her side of the aisle.
Gloria: you did good. I thank you for the FACT that I can be a CSG and take care of myself and have a good job. Kudos and gratitude from a CSG.
But the entire podcast is full of bloggers saying what you said 46 years ago and since. We have to humanize men (essentially kill the part of their brain that notices any difference between men and women apart from their genitalia.) We have to get rid of labels that identify men and women (no matter how hard humans may try, if a man and a woman have sex, he is not going to get pregnant. How will eliminating labels change this?) Conservatives have the same policies as Hitler. Liberals have 70% support in polls on every issue but they don’t get the vote out.
The problem with this is that what Steinem doesn’t understand is an entire generation of women who came after her are questioning her type of feminism. She questioned and made some positive changes in society. We are now questioning in the same way. It’s insulting that she starts out the conversation with the bloggers with a reference to her favorite cartoon which is essentially a Catholic bashing joke. The cartoon is of a woman on one side of the confessional screen. She says to the priest, “You first.” It’s even more insulting that she implies that anyone who doesn’t agree with her brand of feminism is psychologically damaged by their relationship with their mother.
We are questioning whether or not abortion is good for society. We are questioning if trying to suppress the difference between men and women is wrong. By dismissing that group of women you do your cause no favors. As to 70% of Americans supporting what you advocate, in particular, abortion as a human right: let’s have a referendum in each state. You’d lose. See this amalgamation of polls taken earlier of this year. Specifically see the question about partial-birth-abortion. If the left can’t condemn that, then they’ve lost. Notice also that the pro-life position has been gaining ground over time.The women who are questioning the feminist left don’t see how choosing to end a life for the sake of convenience is good. Why can’t we love them both? A pregnancy is nine months and a lifetime snuffed out for good doesn’t seem to add-up.
Excuse my rant on this podcast. I’m sure it was intended for an appreciative audience. But, I think she misses the point of why many women don’t see things the way she does and doesn’t address their concerns at all in my opinion The really sad thing about the liberals and thus the democrats as the liberals/left control the party, is that they don’t realize that if they moved on abortion to protect children, the would never lose an election again. I personally wouldn’t vote for them because I’m a social conservative, but they are just too blinded and are wedded politically to abortion. And it’s sad for the babies that never got a chance to live. Essentially, Steinem’s feminism and the left’s devotion to abortion has lost them the political stage. And they can’t see that at all.
CSG
